Sunday, January 9, 2011

Dating a Man With a Crazy Ex and Kids

Being a steppie was never something I thought would happen to me. But then again, do many people actually plan on that? Maybe there are women out there who have mentality of a gold-digger, except that instead of looking for men with money they look for men who have children then can raise instead of having to birth any of their own? Well, I'm certainly not like that. I always pictured my life with a man I'd meet in college, we'd have 3 kids of our own, I'd have a good advertising job, he'd do...something...and we'd be comfortable and happy. Wow, was I ever off base with that line of dreaming!

My college boyfriend ended up, well, let's just say that his relationship with his "friend" Matt gave me the courage to finally end our tumultuous relationship. Then years later, I meet my current boyfriend. He's 5 years older than me, divorced, and has two children. Hmm... That was an interesting twist on my usual "type." Still, though, we hit it off, we couldn't get enough of talking to each other in that first month of knowing each other, and here we are two years later living together. We're also engaged in a nasty custody fight with his ex-wife.

Some people who are divorced will say that their ex is a complete psycho. "Why?" you might ask them. They'll list reasons like, "She tried to extort money from me!" or "She turned into a total bitch toward the end of our marriage," or "He's an ass. Nothing I did was ever good enough and he was very controlling." Ok, fine, those are all reasons why not to like an ex-spouse, and probably all things that would drive someone to divorce, but those reasons don't necessarily make someone "crazy."

Divorce counselors, family law practitioners, mediators, divorcees themselves, and just about anyone else in the "divorce industry" will explain that when a marriage first breaks up, there's usually a period of "divorce crazy" that people go through. The wounds are fresh, each party wants some kind of revenge, and if there are children in the marriage, custody becomes a HOT issue. Most people, after a little while, if they're sane, will be able to quell the "divorce crazy" and get down to business figuring out what they want, what they can reasonably get from the divorce agreement, and what's best for the children. However, in the case of dealing with a truly crazy soon-to-be ex, there are nasty, nasty games that get played and often times the children are put in the middle by one party or the other. In our case, my boyfriend's ex-wife is crazy and she's the one putting the kids in the middle, and manipulating every single legal angle she can to make my boyfriend look like an abusive asshole who shouldn't have any contact with their kids, when she's the one actually putting them in harm's way.

When my guy and I first started dating, sad to say, we did bond a little bit over his explaining his marriage and his current relationship with his ex (or what was current at the time) to me. His ex-wife would cause drama with money or call him whining about the kids, and he'd tell me about it. I felt special because he was confiding this stuff in me and wanted to open up about this bad situation, and he felt comforted by being able to actually talk about it. Of course we talked about lots of other things, too. Religion, politics, family, our hopes for the future, our views on how people should treat each other, pet peeves, likes, loves, etc. And we talked about the kids. He has two, and at the time we started dating, they were 3 and 8 years old. Little did we realize over the next couple of years how much his relationship with his ex-wife would deteriorate once I came more fully into the picture and started to help take care of the kids when they were with my boyfriend for his parenting time. Also, little did we realize how much the crazy ex was going to start putting the kids in the middle. It's a sad situation, and even sadder to find out through research and finding support groups, that we're not alone in having to deal with this kind of insanity.

Due to job losses and changes, my boyfriend and I live in a different state than his ex wife and kids. This is a blessing and a curse. A blessing because our jobs here in California are pretty great and the distance between where we live, and where the ex lives in Arizona, creates a nice little buffer for sanity when we need it. When she's trying to create conflict, we can disengage and we don't have to worry about her dropping by our house uninvited to cause trouble. At the same time, we save ourselves from being accused of any trouble by not being able to drop by her house and check up on the kids when we can't reach anyone. We've been apart like this for just over a year. The curse part comes into play when we want to try and make it to events at the kids' school and we just can't do that often. Or, when the ex decides to ignore my boyfriend's calls to the kids, and the kids alone, for days on end even though in the parenting time order he's allowed to call and should be able to speak to them every day. We don't get to see the kids very much, and thanks to their manipulative mother, we don't get to talk to them every day either. It's heartbreaking.

Now, some readers might be looking at this thinking, "Well, clearly he shouldn't have moved away from his kids, and if the mother thinks it's necessary to block contact, then she probably has good reason." However, know this, my boyfriend lost his job in 2009 just before the economy crashed. I lived in California, he lived in Arizona. I was planning to try and move to Arizona 6 months later, but after doing some job hunting, my boyfriend realized that there were more opportunities for him in his field in California. In order to pay child support, he needs a good job. In order to make sure the kids are taken care of, he needs to pay child support. He's NEVER missed a child support payment, and has even on a couple of occasions given his crazy, financially-irresponsible ex-wife monetary gifts when she expressed that money was really tight and that she needed extra cash for groceries and bills. Living 400 miles away from the kids is not ideal at all, but at the time my boyfriend and his ex were setting forth a new parenting plan so that visits with the kids would be spelled out, she even said that she would consider looking for work in California within the next year. She works for an online university. She can find a job just about anywhere. That all sounded great! Again, not ideal, but certainly manageable. Then, the crazy ex got a boyfriend and everything went down the tubes.

The only thing we can suppose is that the crazy ex, let's start referring to her as Stella, decided that she wanted her new boyfriend to be more of a father figure for the kids than my boyfriend, who biologically helped make the kids and who had looked after each of them since the days they were born. We also suppose that the new boyfriend, let's call him Skeezer, decided he wanted to have a more "man of the house" role and with the ex-husband so much in the picture, Skeezer might have decided that that relationship needed to change. All of a sudden, we started having trouble arranging for pickups/drop offs for parenting time exchanges. All of a sudden the phone conversations with the kids started being cut back to 4 a week, on average, instead of nightly. All of a sudden my boyfriend was being blamed for everything that went wrong at the house from the utilities being turned off (remember, Stella is very, very, very bad with money) to the car being "reposed" which we think meant repossessed. My boyfriend has never done anything to warrant this kind of treatment, yet Stella has decided to embark on a campaign to get him out of the picture.

There are many, many crazy exes out there like this. Most of them are women. Some are men. Many of them actually do suffer from psychological disorders, often undiagnosed. We believe that we're dealing with what is classified in the DSM-IV as a "Cluster B" personality in Stella, or a High-Functioning Borderline Personality Disorder. It's conflict and frustration on a daily basis, and in the last 10 months, my boyfriend has had to apply to the courts to intervene on four occasions, none of which have really gotten Stella to stop putting the kids in the middle of the drama or actually let my boyfriend have an easy time getting to talk to the kids or see them at his court-ordered parenting times.

So, where do I fit into all of this? I'm my boyfriend's support. I'm the partner. I'm the cheerleader, the encouragement, and I try to be the solace. I'm also the kids' "other mother" when they're with us. I love the kids (well, they are pretty great, even despite their mother's craziness), I help feed them, clothe them, make sure they're bathing, I kiss owies, I give time-outs for bad attitudes. I parent them. And my relationship? Well, it's a relationship. We make each other laugh, we support each other, we love each other. We have long-term plans. But in the meantime, every day is a challenge with battling his crazy ex, and also a challenge to not let that war take over the rest of our lives.

I've got lots, and lots, and lots of stories. Some touching, some appalling, and all of which I plan on sharing here, if there is anyone out there interested in reading them.

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  1. Not letting the drama and war take over YOUR lives is a struggle. It is something that took a while for my fiance and I to master. The hardest part is watching the kids struggle with their own pain, dealing with a mother they know is not quite right in the head, but having no idea what to do with that information. It's no one's dream to take on someone else's crazy ex, but if the alternative is not having my fiance and the kids in my life, then I'll take it.

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  2. Thank you so much for posting this. I've been having such a hard time in my relationship which is basically the same thing you've written here. The only difference is that there is the added bonus of the crazy ex thinking that my boyfriend and I were sleeping together while they were still together (she used to accuse him of sleeping with everyone under the sun because she is incredibly self-conscious). Therefore, she decides she wants to threaten and harass me personally and involve her children in informing them that their father is a "scum bag" and his new girlfriend is a "whore" when they are only three and six years old. It can be so much sometimes and just hearing that others are in similar situations is so relieving it makes me feel like I can muscle through it and maybe one day it will get easier. So thank you again for sharing. You seem like a very strong woman and I wish you the best!

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    1. Shaila, so sorry you're dealing with that!

      I'm going to throw some unsolicited advice at you though...

      It's a very delicate task to correct kids when their bio parent tells them something awful about you. Especially with kids who are as young as your SO's. But, if it were me, when the kids bring it up, ask them if it's nice to call people names? They'll likely tell you that of course it's not nice. I'm sure their parents have at least been able to teach them that much by now! But, those words their mom used, they aren't nice words, and I'd tell the kids that it's not ok to repeat them. I'd also probably tell the kids that when mommies and daddies break up, it's hard and it hurts a lot of feelings. Their mom is probably just still sad, and when people are sad, sometimes they call other people names. Then leave it..

      A big part of dealing with all of this is first us grownups learning on our own not to let our blood boil. It's hard. VERY hard. But look at the kids. Those poor creatures are caught in the middle. They love both of their parents. They only know what they're told, and when they're young, in these cases the crazy bios convince the kids of mean things. All you can do is correct that in age-appropriate ways. Explain in the simplest terms you can where those feelings are probably coming from, but that the kids can have their OWN feelings, and that's ok.

      It does get better. Not all at once. Not quickly, either. But it does get better.

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  3. This article really resonated with me! I am so glad you posted this. My boyfriend is in the exact same situation, except they've split time up 50/50 so he has to stay in state with her... which explains why hes moving to Maryland in December. I've had such a hard time dealing with his crazy ex's bullshit and drama and it made me wonder if I should leave the relationship or not because of it... He's absolutely great, and hes a great father, but she calls him asking for money, and takes the kids out of state without his permission, its horrible! It causes him so much stress, he can barely afford to make ends meet.

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  4. This article really resonated with me! I am so glad you posted this. My boyfriend is in the exact same situation, except they've split time up 50/50 so he has to stay in state with her... which explains why hes moving to Maryland in December. I've had such a hard time dealing with his crazy ex's bullshit and drama and it made me wonder if I should leave the relationship or not because of it... He's absolutely great, and hes a great father, but she calls him asking for money, and takes the kids out of state without his permission, its horrible! It causes him so much stress, he can barely afford to make ends meet.

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  5. Wow, this was a breath of fresh air,as I have not met anyone else in my situation. I too am going through a similar mess. It's gotten so stressful for me that I've thought if leaving would just be better because I know without his baggage, I wouldn't have to deal with drama, his 3 year old, the crazy wife (hes still legally married but going through the divorce process) and on top of everything, his PTSD (he's a combat veteran). He's a great person but I have asked if all this baggage is worth it and it sucks but I have to be honest, when all of this is going on more frequently I tend to feel some resentment toward him n the child and i know that's wrong. I've never openly admitted that and I feel kind of bad for it but coming from someone who isn't big on kids, I'm trying to have a relationship with the kid and I've found myself getting close to her and even enjoying my time with her but the moment the crazy wife starts drama, n the child starts saying she doesn't like me cuz "mommy" doesn't like me it just makes me take a few steps back. I think it's more frustrating because I feel like I have no one I can vent to who understands.

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    1. I know this is an older post.. but i stumbled across it and i am in the EXACT same boat you are in. I am trying to figure out if the baggage is worth it. My boyfriend has 50/50 of his now 8 year old boy and his ex-wife does nothing but cause drama.. tons of it. Shes now been putting stuff in the kids head about us and me especially. Also, their child has ALOT of behavioral issues and she refuses to agree to get him help. He scares me.. and my boyfriend and myself have a baby together and he cant even be trusted around the baby. I have tried to reach out on other blogs but people just bash me when I say how i start to feel resentment towards their child. I also know its wrong, but you cant explain the feeling to others unless you are in the situation. We cant go places and do things because of the kids behavior and that stinks for me and my daughter bc its like we "suffer" because of it. We miss out on things bc of it. If you are ever up to having a venting session please let me know.

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  6. Sofia you are so not alone. I debate with myself on a daily basis if my boyfriend's baggage is worth all the stress and drama. His crazy ex just doesn't know when to stop and there is a cutie little two year old that I adore involved. The little one and I have a great relationship but I worry how that will be in a year or so because like your situation I know this crazy chic is going to bash me to the cutie. I understand that my boyfriend has to deal with her because of the little one but this chic uses the kid to text him everyday. Then she gets angry and uses the kid to get back at him. It is never ending. How much is enough? When do we say it is time to leave the drama? These are questions I wrestle with on a daily basis. I hope things get better for you!

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    1. Kind of sad to see others in the same boat! My boyfriends ex will call and text almost everyday because of the "baby" but still manages to call me awful names, and tell him how she wishes they could still be a family. It's been over a year, and it feels like it's never going to end.

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    2. I don't believe with border lines it will end. I'm in the same position and you really don't know what it feels like till you are here. It's nice to know I'm not alone. But still wish I knew how to handle it better.

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  7. I went searching for an article to help me through dealing with my boyfriends crazy ex-wife who absolutely hates my guts. We've been dating for a year and she still hasn't gotten used to the idea of me being around. She won't let my boyfriend take their son out of her house, when he wants to see his son, he has to go to her house and see him there. He is only a baby, a little over a year and a half and it's sad that she won't let us take him because she doesn't want us to have the family she didn't. I've tried being understanding and explaining that I have so much love for her son, and that I understand she is his mother and I could never replace her. But there is no communicating with the crazy. She just said "no matter how long she's around, the baby will never love her or give a fuck about her. She will always be nothing to him" which hurts. I buy him clothes, shoes, toys, etc (which we can't tell her or she'd throw them away), and all I want is to love him because of the love I have for his dad. He is such a sweet little boy, it makes me sad she uses him for leverage against my boyfriend. She makes him seem like a toy that is only hers, and no one is allowed to play with. It's very childish and annoying.
    It's such a hard spot to be in. Some days I'm confident and don't let her get to me, and other days I don't know how to keep dealing with it. Being called a whore and a bitch, and any other name gets to be tiring. I get blamed for literally anything and everything that is wrong in her life. Coming from a divorced family myself, I had no idea someone could be so manipulative and crazy in going through a divorce and custody battle. My mom handled it way more gracefully.

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    1. I'm catching up on comments so late here... But I wanted to say at least this about your situation Megan...

      The more you try and talk to your BF's ex, the more she's going to hate you right now. Because she's crazy and emotionally immature.

      Since I've been in that situation, what worked for me was to disengage from the ex completely. Anything that needed to be said to her is said through my (now) husband.

      With regard to his visits with his kid...he does NOT have to meet her wherever she designates. He has the right to follow the visitation orders, and unless there is a stipulation in there about him having to have supervised parenting time, or unless there's a location specified, then he can exercise his time wherever he wants. It's up to your BF to flex his balls and put his ex in her place. And sometimes that includes taking her to court for violating the parenting time agreement. Usually 1-2 times in court for violations is enough. For especially stupid or crazy ex's, you might have to go more times than that, and at that point the question of "Do we want to just apply for a change in custody?" comes up. If you do want a change, then you start documenting everything, playing it smart, and you play the game to work the court system. If not...fight for the visitation your BF needs and wants, and then call it quits on fighting for more than that. Court battles, especially over kids, are financially and emotionally draining. But they can be rewarding.

      Good luck. Hang in there.

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  8. Clearly I am on the path of trying to understand and deal with my situation. Or rather, how to maintain a healthy relationship when storm "crazy ex" hits our relationship island everyday. I love my boyfriend and his 4 kids, but my hatred for his vile ex is really making things difficult.

    She is diagnosed Bi-polar but I believe it is much more then that, possibly Borderline Narcissistic Personality Disorder or just plain old possession.

    Ever since I came into the picture a year ago, (the divorce was a bit fresh) She has not stopped trying to make my boyfriends life hell. She usually would just attack him, as a person and a father which would hurt him because, she knows he is and was more of a parent to those kids then she ever was, this guy is so devoted to his children that I accuse him of being a 'helicopter parent'. But lately she has been attacking me, I am certain she has been doing it all along, but he hasn't told me, which I prefer and appreciate, her words mean nothing to me.

    My heart hurts, my anxiety is overwhelming, I can't be near this woman without fighting the desire to physically shake her and say "Dont you care at all about your children and whats best for them!?"

    She uses them to manipulate my ex, she feeds them lies and says hurtful things about their father right in front of him.

    There are days that my boyfriend will burst out laughing in reading a text from her because the things she says and comes up with are beyond ridiculous and completely insane that he doesn't know what else to do, how do you respond to insanity and delusion?

    I am very protective of the people I care about, but in this battle I feel helpless because I cannot intervene for the sake of the kids and believe me I have wanted to say my peace.

    She calls him whenever she knows I am around for completely fake reasons but she knows he will pick up because it might be about the kids. He's told her over and over to not contact him unless it's about them, but she ignores that. She even has a boyfriend, but continues to try and rely on my boyfriend for everything, which is funny because in their marriage she constantly complained that he never did enough for them, she also abused him physically and emotionally.

    I'm just looking for some advice, guidance, yoda wisdom, whatever you got.

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    1. Sometimes you ask if it's worth it..i know I'm not a woman but I'm dating a woman with a narcissistic lying sociopath ex..and has taken toll..filing false police report..which now thankfully state attorney had picked up and I'm pressing charges on him for that...poor kids get so confused mentally...father came back in the picture 2 years ago had been nothing but chaos..ive been with them since 1and 3..now they are 5and 7..he hates they call me dad punishes them for it..i could go on and on...idk how much longer I can hold on..i don't know how you women do it

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    2. So sorry you're going through that. My timing of getting together with my guy was a bit soon (well, a year) after his divorce, too :-/. It was like the crazy ex had a competition going to see who could move on the fastest....and once my guy and I got together, she was determined to make things hard. They'd both dated a couple of people already...I just ended up sticking.

      So my main question for you, and your BF is...why does he answer the phone when she calls? Why does he respond to her texts? HE needs to get contact with her contained so that she's not so intrusive. Unless it's an emergency, he doesn't need to respond to her calls. Unless the texts are RELEVANT information about the kids, they don't need to be responded to.

      Establishing communication and contact boundaries is the key to long-term "peace." And it's really hard to do at first. But the more you do it, the more you'll become accustomed to it. The ex, at first, will RAMP UP the contact when she realizes she's being ignored. She'll say anything, or do anything, she has to in order to get attention. Then it's a matter of you guys fighting back appropriately....bring the courts into it if you have to if/when she violates orders. A couple of rounds of that, and the crazies generally calm down.

      It's a (half?) marathon. Not a sprint. Best of luck.

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  9. I'm glad you posted this, ,my situation is exactly the same as in this story,but I do not know what to do now ,we have been together over a year ,but I can't see the sign of his ex will stop the madness yet, ,and my boyfriend tolerant with her for the sake of the children, ,

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  10. I was in the same spot 23 years ago. My husband's children are now 28 and 32. They are both totally messed up and the younger, a girl, has been estranged from my husband for 3 years. His ex is a sociopath and the daughter is on the verge. Be sure you really love your man if you have an inkling that his ex is really crazy, otherwise RUN!!!!

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  11. I am in the same position also. I've been married just over two years to my husband and his ex wife makes life miserable. She accused me of molesting my 7 year old step son just over a year ago. She has him so brain washed it's sad! It all got dropped and they said they believed he was coached but it still hurts. Why would anyone make their child think they were molested! I have never met anyone like her in my life and honestly I don't know how to deal with her. Any advice is very appriciated!!

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    1. Whoa...that is definitely not ok.

      I hope you and your husband have your SS in some therapy. Family therapy can help, too. When it comes to combating PAS (Parental Alienation Syndrome...and that's what's happening to you), professional help is key.

      So sorry! Hang in there!

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  12. I went through the same thing just over a year ago. It all got dropped, but it's very hurtful to go through something like that. I don't know what is wrong with these women that do this to their kids. Life with my husbands ex will never be "normal" she will always cause problems and I won't lie I struggle with it a lot. Any advice on how to not let it bother me?

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  13. I've been in the same situation for years. Everything every one has been saying I feel like I can relate to. In fact im crying as i type this post because of the ex YET AGAIN ruining another planned hangout with me and my man cause she has used every excuse that has ever existed to delay picking up their child or screw up our time together.

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  14. Hello, as everyone here I was very happy to find this article after typing such a stupid sentence on Google "I am dating a man with a crazy ex". And that is when I knew I had touched bottom. I met my boyfriend on a blind date. He's 17 years older than me and has a lovely 13-year-old with his lovely ex-wife (they divorced 7 years ago). Then he got a "lady", let's call her Cara, pregnant after a one night stand while visiting home. The baby is now 3. My BF quit his job and went back to a bad situation in Argentina, where he is from, to take care of her and the baby. He put that baby to sleep every night and took care of the bills with his savings. Now, it sounds like us, the girlfriends, always defend them and believe everything they told us they did. Even when we were not there. That's because we love them. And, because we want to believe if they got us pregnant, they'd do the same thing for us.

    THE ISSUE:

    She manipulates him and calls him to say the worst things you´ll ever hear a human being say. He reacts and gets angry, which causes a cloud in our entire relationship - quite often. My problem is: I can be just so supportive to a man who's determined to be miserable. When does it stop? When will our relationship stop being affected by her? I almost feel as if her using the baby is her indication that they were married. He's doing the best he can and dealing with all the crazy amounts of money she asks (which has not been a problem to me because I hate arguing with people about their own money). It's the mood changes she causes on him. That spell. I try not to think that he loves her, but there's a really thin line between loving someone and wanting to murder them. It is still just as time consuming. I think he's doing everything not to fuck up another child's life. He's had that baggage. I've never loved someone so much to write a comment like this, left alone Google a solution. I'm running out of cheers for him. I don't have the strength or the wisdom to list why I would break with him. I don't want to let her get away with that.

    PS. She doesn't know I exist. I can only imagine if she did.

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    1. Wow, that is a lot to take on!

      What we all end up having to evaluate is whether or not the relationship is worth it. When does it become a case of your partner contributing to, or at least not helping, your situation.

      But also for yourself...if he's keeping you secret after all of this time...why? At some point, something will have to change. If he really loves that child, he either has to figure out how to get it to where you are, or, he will have to move. It's not an easy decision to make. I hope it works out ok for you.

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  15. So..... Ive been in a relationship with my partner now for 3 years. My bf was with his ex for 10 years and they had 2 children together. One girl 11 now and one boy 6. They were 8 and 3 when we met. They split due to her cheating with a guy. Over the three years I've have had the most awful verbal abuse. She has verbally abused my disabled daughter too in a message. My partner has his children every other weekend, every Monday after school for 4 hrs and overnight stay on Wednesday. The relationship between my partner and I is one of love, trust and respect and my relationship with his children was great but over the last 6 months his daughter has started to disengage from me. No hugs anymore, no cuddles on the sofa, just sneaky jokey comments about me. His son also tells me regularly that his mum hates me and calls me fat all the time. The ex also abuses my partner too whenever she likes. She has caused complete turmoil in our relationship and appears to thrive from it even though I never retaliate. Her disgusting interactions and how difficult she is has on many occasions made me question whether I need this on going abuse in my life. My parents feel she wants him back and is trying to push me away although she has been in a relationship too for 3 years and they keep splitting up. For years I've wanted to have a sit down adult conversation with her about it all but I strongly believe she cannot hold a rational conversation so I've opted against it. I also considered meeting her one day whens she on her own, trying to talk to her then if she gets abusive I will knock her out. This woman is 39 years old and definitely has a narrcassist personality disorder. She's also physically punched my partner in the face infront of his children, we then picked the kids up and dropped them off with me present too as a second pair of eyes and ears and since this she snares at me but she never says anything rude or agressive to him or me to our faces. It's hard at times but remember all of you they want your partner to suffer and you both to end... There's lots of control, possession and jealousy deep rooted in many of these 'crazy exes'.... Just laugh and carry on regardless x

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  17. I am in a very similar situation, I have been dating my boyfriend for about 7 months, we actually dated in High School some 28 years ago and reconnected on Facebook. At that time I lived on the other side of the United States, as the months progressed we got closer, during one of my visits out to see him "she" found out about me. He had been with his ex for 12 years, married only a few, they have one child together, a 10 year old boy. This is not either of their first marriages. She is crazy. She got my cellphone number and sent me all kinds of messages, telling me I was a home wrecker, calling me every disgusting name you can think of, she threatened my job, and my life at one point. Then the next day I would get another message apologizing for her behavior, promising to get her emotions under control, admitting that she ruined their marriage not me, then within the hour she was back to the name calling. I blocked her number and she would find ways around it, I even changed my number and she got that too. Things between my bf and I became more serious and we decided that we wanted to live together, so I moved. The weekend I arrived she filed a protective order on my bf so he could not have contact with his son for 10 days until court, after the second day she began texting and calling him, in 8 days he received 186 messages from her begging him to talk to her, sending him old family photos, telling him how much she loves and misses him. It was emotionally draining and abusive. She then walks into court and asks for the order to be vacated because his son misses him. She has filed false police reports accusing him of sexual battery and burglary. She sent pornographic images to me thru my work email trying to get me into trouble at work. It goes on and on and on. She recently began trying to "tag" herself in my photos of him and I on Facebook, I don't even understand why she would do that?? There are moments and even whole days that I question why I am putting up with all of this, my life has been drama free for years, but like all of you, I love my boyfriend and want to spend my life with him. It feels as though it is never going to get better. I would love to hear your thoughts, suggestions, or even rants.

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  18. I've been going through something similar and have recently just called it quits on our relationship because of the ex 😣 I'm just not strong enough to put up with her manipulative, vile ways 😔

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  19. Why do so many women (silly little girls) feel the need to play these shitty games with their kids fathers?? I've recently called time on my amazing relationship because I am suffering with so much anxiety from his ex's nonsense 😣

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  21. I am new to this forum and not sure what kind of advice I am seeking, but feel isolated from friends as I don't want them to know what is happening in my relationship. My boyfriend of about six months is now beginning a custody battle with his ex wife who has initiated three court cases which have involved reducing the child support she pays to him (as he is the custodial parent and she was the higher income earner in the relationship). The latest is that she is requesting he pay her child support as well as legal fees, this is after she has committed herself to psychiatric hospitals/residential treatment centers twice since I have started dating him. At his lawyer's recommendation he is going for sole custody as he does not feel he can co parent with his disturbed ex wife any longer. I think this is her attempt to sabotage his life. In the first months of our relationship, things were going so well, it felt easy and being with him and his kids brought me a lot of joy. We started talking about moving in together by the end of the year and starting to try and have a baby of our own (our time is limited as I am in my mid 40s and he is 50). We also talked about planning a trip together next month. For the most part, since all of this has started up (court motions, meetings with lawyers, etc), it feels like I cannot bring up any future planning without overwhelming him, including our vacation. I have tried to plan something he would feel comfortable doing but he has concerns about court dates and how it would "look" if he were to go away on a vacation (if that might get used against him). In any case, over the past weeks, my anxiety has intensified a lot, I want to be supportive of him, but I have a bad feeling that this is going to take a negative toll on him, on us and any chance of a future together. Perhaps I am being catastrophic, but I just am having a hard time feeling safe in any future with him when we can't even plan a six day vacation. I. guess I want to know if I am being unreasonable or should I take a break from any future talk and even trying to plan a vacation until this passes (which could take a long time). Today I almost ended the relationship on the phone due to feeling so frustrated, afraid, and sad.

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  23. Hello, I was very happy to find this article. I would like to share my story and maybe you can give me some advice .. I really need some... My situation; I m in a relationship with a man with 2 kids (7 and 11 years old). He is divorced almost 6 years. We are in a relationship only 1 month and is a relationship at distance (cca 100 miles). We were doing great, he even told me, at our second date, that he loves me. He always told me that I m pretty, that he really likes to spend time with me, that he miss me, that feels like a teenager. Suddenly sth changed...he really loves his children and wants to spent as much time as possibile with them. But he has a lot of problems with his ex. Now it seems that the arrangement that they settled down it is not good anymore for his ex. He told me, that he has to solve this problem once and for all, that he will call me. Three days passed and nothing. I really can t explain myself why he doesnt call me, why he doesnt write me, sth. I have no clue what is going on and of course I m thinking that all this love story is fake, that he only take advantage of me or its truly possibile that he has first to solve this big issue about his kids with his crazy ex and than dedicate time for us?

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  24. I couldn’t help but feel connected to all of you “other mothers” out there. My husband has two kids and an insane ex-wife who uses not only my husband , but my father in law to manipulate and harass! We just got married, and even the week of the wedding was calling me from blocked numbers incessantly, harassing me, thinking I would call off the wedding. It has gotten to the point my husband and I filed for a restraining order, and in the end are now using a co-parenting app, which is used so they may communicate regarding the kids and it’s overseen by the courts. If one parent oversteps, or harasses the other parent, they may get fined. Although this helped my issue with the insane ex from calling, texting and emailing my husband, it hasn’t now caused an even greater issue with my father in law. He’s in the middle of everything, and she calls, texts, emails him over twenty times a day. She threatens him daily, and he fears he won’t be able to see the kids if he doesn’t do what she says and wants. He’s her slave! I have been trying to now get a restraining order on his behalf, but he’s too scared (he’s brainwashed by her), thinking he will not be able to see the kids if he moves forward with the harassment charges.

    I honestly don’t know what to do anymore. My marriage is very new, and this time should be a very happy one, but it’s causing so much tension with my husband and I. At times I feel like I’m in the middle of such a mess, which will never get better. I’m praying for a miracle, and trying to keep positive, but there are daily issues now with the ex. She is mentally unstable, and self medicates with pills and drinks, which has caused so many car accidents, while the kids were in the car! She uses the utmost absurd excuses weekly so that my father in law or my husband and I will need to watch the kids more than what is allotted in their parent agreement. She even stated she wanted to commit the older son (age 9) to a mental institution, for no apparent reason. Both boys are healthy, young, rambunctious kids who live in an unstable household. She is clearly the one who needs some help, and it’s getting to the point where the boys are in the middle, and being brainwashed as well. It’s very unfortunate, since they should not be brought up in such hostility, they should be living their best years as kids!
    I’m writing to find an answer... how do I keep going with this relationship, before throwing in the towel?

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  25. If she is unstable, why are you not petitioning the court for full custody? Document everything to show signs of her instability and proof the boys are in potential danger.

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  26. So we ask our selves "What is the commonn factor"? Crazy women who wont let their ex go. Its absolutely unbelievable and just baffles me why some people do this. Its heartbreaking to have to deal with this when you truly love someone and its not their fault. I want more than anything to be there for my fiancé and his kids. But the constant drama and manipulation bears its toll. There is a point where its just exhausting and un deserving. Women who have a decent woman as their husband boyfriends ex with children or not have no idea what its like to deal with this crap we are going through AND are lucky. So where's the mental and emotional breaking point? DO I deserve to have DCF come to my house from accusations from abuse and threaten my rights with my own child. Absolutley not. Here I am 3 years into it and truly feel I have found the love of my life with kids are involved and now questioning it all. I guess everything is a lesson in life and time will only tell. I have to stick up for my well being though, we all do.

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